Vedic Astrology: Michael Shermer vs Jeffrey Armstrong

November 1st, 2007 | by astro |
Kinghorn asked:


In a scenario set up to debunk astrology, Jeffrey Armstrong completely outshines Michael Shermer in a way that any scientist should say is “statistically interesting.”

The SCENARIO: Jeffrey reads NINE charts in about TWENTY minutes. Most charts are usually given an hour of study each. EXPERIMENT I: face-to-face reading with a skeptic. The subject, afterwards, said Jeffrey’s reading “officially blew me away.” EXPERIMENT II: Nine “blind” readings. Results: 105 of 137—or 77%—of Jeffrey’s statements deemed accurate, ALL scores 63% or over, high of 89%. EXPERIMENT III: The kicker. Two of the nine, unbeknownst to Jeffrey or the subjects, have their charts switched. Accuracy rating drops to 38 and 21% respectively. Switched back to true charts, accuracy goes to 94 and 92%.

VANCE

Share It and Enjoy: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages.
  • Digg
  • del.icio.us
  • Reddit
  • Ask
  • email
  • Facebook
  • Google Bookmarks
  • LinkedIn
  • MySpace
  • Netscape
  • Squidoo
  • Technorati
  • TwitThis
  1. 108 Responses to “Vedic Astrology: Michael Shermer vs Jeffrey Armstrong”

  2. By madchillydog on Nov 2, 2007 | Reply

    To rely on astrology would be…disasterous. :)

  3. By madchillydog on Nov 6, 2007 | Reply

    Where’s the complete video?

  4. By tigr7170 on Nov 8, 2007 | Reply

    P.S. It’s documented, I predicted a major future event using Magi Astrology… so it’s not just talk, but reality.

  5. By tigr7170 on Nov 8, 2007 | Reply

    If you want someone who can show you how to bring ‘Real Magic’ into your life, check out Julian Lee, Master Locational Astrologer. I’ve lived his research, and I’ve got photos to prove it, and everlasting memories to be thankful for it. Astrology is real, as the air we breathe, and for those who can understand it, is the golden keys of Spirit, Light, and being.

  6. By Reido2828 on Nov 10, 2007 | Reply

    I am no tkeen on finding my way I want to find the truth

  7. By paali123 on Nov 12, 2007 | Reply

    I don’t know If you will see this, if you are really keen on finding your way, I would recommend go to your nearest Buddhist temple talk to a Buddhist monk. Because I know nothing much about Veda and Hnduism .Somehow it seems (sonsneezer)is a knowlageble person about Hinduism I respect his advise too.

  8. By vysehrad on Nov 13, 2007 | Reply

    No scientist would consider this remotely statistically significant. It is anecdotal.

  9. By vysehrad on Nov 16, 2007 | Reply

    Cold reading, vague statements, tiny sample sizes and no real control group are… serious business!!!

  10. By hereswhatsleft on Nov 16, 2007 | Reply

    Has this individual been tested further? Has he repeated these results? If so, then this is very interesting. Test, test, test. Science is not a position, it’s a method. Being skeptical is not the same as being cynical. I would gladly change my position on psychics, astrology and the like, so long as there was sufficient evidence to do so.

  11. By F4O4U4R4S on Nov 20, 2007 | Reply

    An accuracy rating of 77% is a credible number and is more than just a guess.
    In the betting world, if you gathered information on a team and it turned out that a certain team wins against another team 77% of the time, the bet would be deemed as a credible bet.
    In the betting world any situation where a team has a better than 66% chance of winning that game, through extensive research, is a virtual lock.

  12. By morgiieee on Nov 22, 2007 | Reply

    astrology isn’t a government. a government makes a society. so you know.
    astrology can’t end world hunger, or poverty.
    in case you did not know. inform yourself on the subject before making negative comments.

  13. By igottaexplain on Nov 25, 2007 | Reply

    this is ridiculous.

  14. By nepreth on Nov 28, 2007 | Reply

    and also astrology is an old traditon in china as well :)

  15. By moondog999 on Nov 29, 2007 | Reply

    not 100% sure, but I think it was Mangaldas Girdhardas who said that.

  16. By statickk14 on Nov 30, 2007 | Reply

    I second that!!

  17. By statickk14 on Dec 2, 2007 | Reply

    I agree, Gandhi actually dragged India down few centuries instead of leading her to a future of Critical thinking. Gandhi was a religious fanatic Hindu and a ****** who hated the black people in Sout Africa. In fact ‘money was spent to maintain Gandhi’s poverty’, can’t remember who said that, but a famous Indian who was Gandhi’s contemporary.

  18. By moondog999 on Dec 5, 2007 | Reply

    My country has already been ***** and robbed by the British. What’s more, the country my family came from has also been ***** and robbed by the same crowd. Yet both counties have first world economies and happy productive people!

    How did that happen?

    Chiefly because we know education and hard work lead to success, not some silly backwards bullshit *primitive* belief in astrology!

    Furthermore Gandhi was a ****** opportunist who gets far more credit than he deserves.

    Why’d you bring him up?

  19. By dd1857 on Dec 7, 2007 | Reply

    60 years into freedom..Now a Nuclear Power..Rising power.. 150 years Under British Rule..See the difference???

  20. By dd1857 on Dec 7, 2007 | Reply

    yep.that is true..Home your country also is ***** , robbed like british did to india and then india will see how good you are..
    The fact is if you look closely who has provied the though leadership aginst the Western Empire… All coming from India…Gandhi ..Luthar KINg…South Africa..
    CHINA budddhism… Japan.. Buddhism…
    Yep that is where india has lead to ..India,China,Japan, and other countries still follow Hindusim,Buddhism..

  21. By anduin13 on Dec 9, 2007 | Reply

    The reading was completely cold reading.

  22. By moondog999 on Dec 12, 2007 | Reply

    yeah let’s all follow the Indian example.

    where has astrology gotten them? India is a world leader in poverty, disease and hunger.

  23. By moondog999 on Dec 12, 2007 | Reply

    This is inane.

    The statements he is calling out could (and do!) apply to anyone to some degree.

    Colour me unimpressed.

  24. By rrhebert on Dec 15, 2007 | Reply

    Also, several people have said that the first “hit” Armstrong gets couldn’t have been a guess, because most people don’t do martial arts. But Armstrong said “martial arts or dancing,” and Jennifer hears “martial arts.” If she had never done martial arts (not even a kickboxing class at the gym?), he could fall back on the more general “dancing” guess. Most people have danced at some point, at least when they were a kid. Does anyone else spend a lot of time in a blue toyota or an older car?

  25. By rrhebert on Dec 18, 2007 | Reply

    @mysticbrightshadow: If vedic astrology has been around for 7,000 years, as you claim, have the “experts” updated their charts recently? The stars are in significantly different positions than 7k years ago…

  26. By geirdaniel on Dec 19, 2007 | Reply

    Is it just me or does this guy look a lot like Kent Hovind?

  27. By Gushing Gashes on Jul 1, 2010 | Reply

    Petite College

  28. By Departamento en Renta en Ciudad Juárez cerca Nuevo Consulado on Jul 1, 2010 | Reply

    Little Bree

  29. By Lesbian Movie Planet on Jul 1, 2010 | Reply

    Hardcore Sorority Sluts

  30. By Mom Hunts Young Meat on Jul 1, 2010 | Reply

    Jelena Jensen

  31. By Old n Fat Movies on Jul 1, 2010 | Reply

    Bound And Banged

  32. By Josie Junior on Jul 1, 2010 | Reply

    Gay Internal Creampies

  33. By MILF XV on Jul 1, 2010 | Reply

    Lots A Hotties

  34. By Gangsta Gays on Jul 1, 2010 | Reply

    Dawson Miller

  35. By Online Banking on Sep 26, 2010 | Reply

    That was interesting . I love your quality that you put into your post . Please do move forward with more similar to this.

  36. By club penguin on Oct 22, 2010 | Reply

    Thank you for sharing this good article. Very inspiring! (as always, btw)

  37. By Frank Alterman on Oct 25, 2010 | Reply

    Reading this article Vedic Astrology: Michael Shermer vs Jeffrey Armstrong | Astrology jogs my memory of my old roommate! He always kept speaking about this. I will forward this post to him. Pretty sure he will have a superb read. Thank you for the knowledge you publish.

  38. By Armida Skorupa on Oct 25, 2010 | Reply

    Vedic Astrology: Michael Shermer vs Jeffrey Armstrong | Astrology was a fairly good post. I simply stumbled upon your blog and needed to say that I have really loved reading your blog posts. Any way I will be grabbing your feed and I hope you post once more soon.

  39. By Payday Loan on Oct 26, 2010 | Reply

    Nice site, nice and easy on the eyes and great content too.

  40. By Mae Abatiell on Oct 27, 2010 | Reply

    Vedic Astrology: Michael Shermer vs Jeffrey Armstrong | Astrology is a nice article, thank you for sharing this enlightening news. It is always good when you cannot solely be informed, but in addition be entertained! I’ll visit your weblog frequently for the latest posts.

  41. By Tracy Morgan on Oct 28, 2010 | Reply

    Music began playing anytime I opened this website, so frustrating!

  42. By naklejki scienne on Oct 28, 2010 | Reply

    naklejki ścienne to wspaniałe dekoracje do mieszkania naklejki na ściany ornamenty architektura naklejki scienne

  43. By Tracy Morgan Videos on Oct 28, 2010 | Reply

    If you could e-mail me with a few tips on how you made your blog look this great, I would be thankful.

  44. By vig rx on Oct 29, 2010 | Reply

    I was very encouraged to find this site. I wanted to thank you for this special read. I definitely savored every little bit of it and I have you bookmarked to check out new stuff you post. wajadud555

  45. By Leighton Mester on Oct 29, 2010 | Reply

    When I came over to this article I can only see part of it, is this my net cell phone browser or the internet website? Should I restart?

  46. By Elmer Celani on Oct 29, 2010 | Reply

    You create your points nicely yet I still am not persuaded yet.

  47. By Juliana Lubinski on Oct 30, 2010 | Reply

    My mother and I want to create a blog similar to this for our web site, I stumbled across your web blog trying to get ideas on the theme and layout. I am taking some coding class while attending college but not confident that I would have the capacity to develop a blog like this one at this time. Did you code this website yourself or use a qualified?

  48. By Cup Size on Oct 30, 2010 | Reply

    This will be a excellent blog, might you be interested in doing an interview regarding just how you developed it? If so e-mail me!

  49. By Joselyn Damrow on Oct 30, 2010 | Reply

    It is a really excellent read for me, must admit that you’re among the finest bloggers I have seen. Thanks for posting this informative article Vedic Astrology: Michael Shermer vs Jeffrey Armstrong | Astrology. Carry on the nice work, I’ve added you to my blogroll.

  50. By vigrx online on Oct 30, 2010 | Reply

    I thought it was going to be some boring old post, but it really compensated for my time. I will post a link to this page on my blog. I am sure my visitors will find that very useful

  51. By Picture Gallery Of Zooey Deschanel on Oct 31, 2010 | Reply

    Do you guys have a twitter fan webpage? I looked for for one on facebook or twitter but could not find one, I would really like to become a fan!

  52. By vigrx on Oct 31, 2010 | Reply

    Couldn?t be written any better. Reading this post reminds me of my old room mate! He always kept talking about this. I will forward this article to him. Pretty sure he will have a good read. Thanks for sharing!

  53. By Shizuko Bove on Oct 31, 2010 | Reply

    Reading a few of your articles I seriously found this particular one to be very good. I have a blog site as well and would love to repost several snips of your articles on my blog site. Should it be ok if I use this so long as I personal reference your blog post or build a inbound link to the article I took the snip from? If not I recognize and would not do it without having your endorsement . I have book marked this article to twitter in addition to zynga account intended for reference. Regardless thanks either way!

  54. By Janet K. Martinez on Nov 1, 2010 | Reply

    I wanted to thank for this great read!I really enjoyed reading.

  55. By Jolene Lohan on Nov 3, 2010 | Reply

    How Can I Find Free Government Grants?

  56. By viagra cheap on Nov 3, 2010 | Reply

    This is a really good read for me, Must admit that you are one of the best bloggers I ever saw.Thanks for posting this informative article.

    Sung@Linn-mail.com

  57. By Jessenia Nicklow on Nov 3, 2010 | Reply

    Bladder Control For Men

  58. By false eyelashes on Nov 3, 2010 | Reply

    makeup brushes is good is excellent

  59. By Cliff Kroetz on Nov 4, 2010 | Reply

    Thyroid Supplements For Poor Thyroid Health

  60. By Sherice Goerlich on Nov 5, 2010 | Reply

    Site Map

  61. By penis enlargement costs on Nov 5, 2010 | Reply

    This is a smart blog. I mean it. You have so much knowledge about this issue, and so much passion. You also know how to make people rally behind it, obviously from the responses. Youve got a design here thats not too flashy, but makes a statement as big as what youre saying. Great job, indeed.

  62. By natural hoodia on Nov 7, 2010 | Reply

    Wow, this was a really quality post. In theory I’d like to write like this too – taking time and actual effort to make a good post… but what can I say… I procrastinate alot and never appear to get something done.

  63. By hoodia green tea on Nov 8, 2010 | Reply

    Have you ever considered adding more videos to your blog posts to keep the readers more entertained? I mean I just read through the entire article of yours and it was quite good but since I’m more of a visual learner,I found that to be more helpful well let me know how it turns out! I love what you guys are always up too. Such clever work and reporting! Keep up the great works guys I’ve added you guys to my blogroll. This is a great article thanks for sharing this informative information.. I will visit your blog regularly for some latest post.

  64. By scholarships for mothers on Nov 11, 2010 | Reply

    Nice to see you back. And again by having an interesting post.financial help

  65. By uneomployment help on Nov 12, 2010 | Reply

    save a marriage alone

  66. By vigrx on Nov 13, 2010 | Reply

    I thought it was going to be some boring old post, but it really compensated for my time. I will post a link to this page on my blog. I am sure my visitors will find that very useful

  67. By chiropractic marketing on Nov 14, 2010 | Reply

    Hello! Look at my nice site chiropatic marketing , See You!

  68. By maria andros on Nov 14, 2010 | Reply

    Great work keep it coming

  69. By gaia online cheats on Nov 15, 2010 | Reply

    Congratulations for posting such a useful blog. Your blog isn’t only informative but also extremely artistic too. There usually are extremely couple of individuals who can write not so easy articles that creatively. Keep up the good writing !!

  70. By student loans without cosigner on Dec 1, 2010 | Reply

    This is a good posting, I was wondering if I could use this write-up on my website, I will link it back to your website though. If this is a problem please let me know and I will take it down right away

  71. By small wedding plan on Dec 1, 2010 | Reply

    I was just talking with my coworker about this today at dinner . Don’t know how in the world we got on the subject really, they brought it up. I do remember eating a amazing fruit salad with sunflower seeds on it. I digress…

  72. By seo article submission on Dec 2, 2010 | Reply

    Ha ha… I was just surfing around and took a glance at these remarks. I can’t believe there’s still this much attention. Thanks for posting about this.

  73. By lip plumping on Dec 2, 2010 | Reply

    You…are…my…hero!!! I cant believe something like this exists on the internet! Its so true, so honest, and more than that you dont sound like an idiot! Finally, someone who knows how to talk about a subject without sounding like a kid who didnt get that bike he wanted for Christmas.

  74. By Skills & presentation training in london on Dec 2, 2010 | Reply

    Great write-up, I am a big believer in leaving comments on blogs and forums to help the blog writers know that they’ve added something useful to the world wide web!

  75. By Bidet on Dec 2, 2010 | Reply

    Awseome article, I am a big believer in posting comments on blogs and forums to let the blog writers know that they’ve added some thing worthwhile to the world wide web!

  76. By Free money on Dec 2, 2010 | Reply

    Hi this is a good post. I’m going to e-mail this to my buddies. I stumbled on this while browsing on yahoo I’ll be sure to come back. thanks for sharing.

  77. By buy revitol on Dec 2, 2010 | Reply

    Thanks for writing this. I really feel as though I know so much more about this than I did before. Your blog really brought some things to light that I never would have thought about before reading it. You should continue this, Im sure most people would agree youve got a gift.

  78. By green colored contacts on Dec 2, 2010 | Reply

    You…are…my…hero!!! I cant believe something like this exists on the internet! Its so true, so honest, and more than that you dont sound like an idiot! Finally, someone who knows how to talk about a subject without sounding like a kid who didnt get that bike he wanted for Christmas.

  79. By Educational Consultants on Dec 2, 2010 | Reply

    One of the more impressive blogs Ive seen. Thanks so much for keeping the internet classy for a change. Youve got style, class, bravado. I mean it. Please keep it up because without the internet is definitely lacking in intelligence.

  80. By Sibutral 15Mg on Dec 2, 2010 | Reply

    You…are…my…hero!!! I cant believe something like this exists on the internet! Its so true, so honest, and more than that you dont sound like an idiot! Finally, someone who knows how to talk about a subject without sounding like a kid who didnt get that bike he wanted for Christmas.

  81. By ukforex on Dec 2, 2010 | Reply

    I was wondering if you ever considered changing the layout of your blog? Its very well written; I love what youve got to say. But maybe you could a little more in the way of content so people could connect with it better. Youve got an awful lot of text for only having one or two images. Maybe you could space it out better?

  82. By fire places screensavers on Dec 2, 2010 | Reply

    Great write-up, I am a big believer in posting comments on blogs to let the blog writers know that they’ve added something worthwhile to the world wide web!

  83. By Mortgages on Dec 2, 2010 | Reply

    Thanks for writing this. I really feel as though I know so much more about this than I did before. Your blog really brought some things to light that I never would have thought about before reading it. You should continue this, Im sure most people would agree youve got a gift.

  84. By lap band diet on Dec 2, 2010 | Reply

    You lost me, friend. I mean, I suppose I get what youre stating. I recognize what you’re saying, but you just appear to have overlooked that there are some other people in the world who view this issue for what it truly is and may not agree with you. You might be turning away many of men and women who might have been fans of your blog.

  85. By quick business loan on Dec 2, 2010 | Reply

    I found so many interesting stuff in your blog especially its discussion. From the tons of comments on your articles, I guess I am not the only one having all the enjoyment here! keep up the good work.

  86. By personal loans on Dec 2, 2010 | Reply

    I hope you never stop! This is one of the best blogs Ive ever read. Youve got some mad skill here, man. I just hope that you dont lose your style because youre definitely one of the coolest bloggers out there. Please keep it up because the internet needs someone like you spreading the word.

  87. By steps to writing an essay on Dec 2, 2010 | Reply

    Many thanks for creating the effort to talk about this, I feel strongly about this and like learning a great deal more on this matter. If possible, as you gain knowledge, would you mind updating your weblog with a great deal more details? It’s really beneficial for me.

  88. By Link on Dec 2, 2010 | Reply

    I hope you never stop! This is one of the best blogs Ive ever read. Youve got some mad skill here, man. I just hope that you dont lose your style because youre definitely one of the coolest bloggers out there. Please keep it up because the internet needs someone like you spreading the word.

  89. By soccer predictions on Dec 2, 2010 | Reply

    It’s not that I want to replicate your internet site, but I really like the style. Could you let me know which theme are you using? Or was it custom made?

  90. By credit repair on Dec 2, 2010 | Reply

    I hope you never stop! This is one of the best blogs Ive ever read. Youve got some mad skill here, man. I just hope that you dont lose your style because youre definitely one of the coolest bloggers out there. Please keep it up because the internet needs someone like you spreading the word.

  91. By low cost dental insurance on Dec 2, 2010 | Reply

    Many thanks for sharing this very good article. Very inspiring! (as always, btw)

  92. By loans online on Dec 2, 2010 | Reply

    Excellent read, I just passed this onto a friend who was doing a little research on that. And he actually bought me lunch because I located it for him smile So let me rephrase that: Thanks for lunch!

  93. By norton antivirus on Dec 2, 2010 | Reply

    Congratulations for posting such a useful blog. Your blog isn’t only informative but also extremely artistic too. There usually are extremely couple of individuals who can write not so easy articles that creatively. Keep up the good writing !!

  94. By internet payday loans on Dec 2, 2010 | Reply

    Thanks for writing this. I really feel as though I know so much more about this than I did before. Your blog really brought some things to light that I never would have thought about before reading it. You should continue this, Im sure most people would agree youve got a gift.

  95. By Stonecap on Dec 2, 2010 | Reply

    I’ve recently been thinking the similar issue myself lately. Glad to see somebody on the same wavelength! Nice article.

  96. By Yung Steagall on Dec 2, 2010 | Reply

    I have read a few of the articles on your website now, and I really like your style of blogging. I added it to my favorites blog site list and will be checking back soon. Please check out my site as well and let me know what you think.

  97. By Squidoo on Dec 2, 2010 | Reply

    Hi, I just found your website via Bing. Your viewpoint is truly relevant to my life right now, and I’m really delighted I found your website.

  98. By free psychic readings online chat on Dec 2, 2010 | Reply

    This is a good posting, I was wondering if I could use this write-up on my website, I will link it back to your website though. If this is a problem please let me know and I will take it down right away

  99. By pallet flow rack on Dec 2, 2010 | Reply

    One of the more impressive blogs Ive seen. Thanks so much for keeping the internet classy for a change. Youve got style, class, bravado. I mean it. Please keep it up because without the internet is definitely lacking in intelligence.

  100. By life cover uk on Dec 2, 2010 | Reply

    Your posts always include alot of really up to date info. Where do you come up with this? Just saying you are very imaginative. Thanks again

  101. By iphone covers on Dec 2, 2010 | Reply

    Ha ha… I was just browsing around and took a glance at these comments. I can’t believe there’s still this much interest. Thanks for posting about this.

  102. By Christoper Mans on Dec 2, 2010 | Reply

    Hi nice post you got there keep up the good work!

    Football betting professional

  103. By Otilia Maarx on Dec 6, 2010 | Reply

    I’m really enjoying reading your well published articles. It appears like you invest a lot of effort and time in your blog. I’ve bookmarked it and I am searching forward to reading new content articles. Maintain up the great work!

  104. By Eleonor Thidphy on Dec 6, 2010 | Reply

    Several of the factors associated with this weblog publish are usually beneficial nonetheless had me personally wanting to understand, did they critically imply that? One point I have got to say is your writing expertise are excellent and I’ll be returning back for any brand-new weblog post you arrive up with, you might possibly have a brand-new supporter. I bookmarked your blog for reference.

  105. By electronic medical records software on Dec 7, 2010 | Reply

    Ha ha… I was just surfing around and took a look at these remarks. I can’t believe there’s still this much fascination. Thanks for posting about this.

  106. By free online psychic chat on Dec 7, 2010 | Reply

    I was wondering if you ever considered changing the layout of your blog? Its very well written; I love what youve got to say. But maybe you could a little more in the way of content so people could connect with it better. Youve got an awful lot of text for only having one or two images. Maybe you could space it out better?

  107. By free online psychic chat on Dec 7, 2010 | Reply

    I found so many interesting stuff in your blog especially its discussion. From the tons of comments on your articles, I guess I am not the only one having all the enjoyment here! keep up the good work.

  108. By psychic medium on Dec 7, 2010 | Reply

    I was wondering if you ever considered changing the layout of your blog? Its very well written; I love what youve got to say. But maybe you could a little more in the way of content so people could connect with it better. Youve got an awful lot of text for only having one or two images. Maybe you could space it out better?

  109. By online cash advance on Dec 7, 2010 | Reply

    You…are…my…hero!!! I cant believe something like this exists on the internet! Its so true, so honest, and more than that you dont sound like an idiot! Finally, someone who knows how to talk about a subject without sounding like a kid who didnt get that bike he wanted for Christmas.

Sorry, comments for this entry are closed at this time.