Vedic Astrology: Michael Shermer vs Jeffrey Armstrong
November 1st, 2007 | by astro |
In a scenario set up to debunk astrology, Jeffrey Armstrong completely outshines Michael Shermer in a way that any scientist should say is “statistically interesting.”
The SCENARIO: Jeffrey reads NINE charts in about TWENTY minutes. Most charts are usually given an hour of study each. EXPERIMENT I: face-to-face reading with a skeptic. The subject, afterwards, said Jeffrey’s reading “officially blew me away.” EXPERIMENT II: Nine “blind” readings. Results: 105 of 137—or 77%—of Jeffrey’s statements deemed accurate, ALL scores 63% or over, high of 89%. EXPERIMENT III: The kicker. Two of the nine, unbeknownst to Jeffrey or the subjects, have their charts switched. Accuracy rating drops to 38 and 21% respectively. Switched back to true charts, accuracy goes to 94 and 92%.
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108 Responses to “Vedic Astrology: Michael Shermer vs Jeffrey Armstrong”
By madchillydog on Nov 2, 2007 | Reply
To rely on astrology would be…disasterous.
By madchillydog on Nov 6, 2007 | Reply
Where’s the complete video?
By tigr7170 on Nov 8, 2007 | Reply
P.S. It’s documented, I predicted a major future event using Magi Astrology… so it’s not just talk, but reality.
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By Reido2828 on Nov 10, 2007 | Reply
I am no tkeen on finding my way I want to find the truth
By paali123 on Nov 12, 2007 | Reply
I don’t know If you will see this, if you are really keen on finding your way, I would recommend go to your nearest Buddhist temple talk to a Buddhist monk. Because I know nothing much about Veda and Hnduism .Somehow it seems (sonsneezer)is a knowlageble person about Hinduism I respect his advise too.
By vysehrad on Nov 13, 2007 | Reply
No scientist would consider this remotely statistically significant. It is anecdotal.
By vysehrad on Nov 16, 2007 | Reply
Cold reading, vague statements, tiny sample sizes and no real control group are… serious business!!!
By hereswhatsleft on Nov 16, 2007 | Reply
Has this individual been tested further? Has he repeated these results? If so, then this is very interesting. Test, test, test. Science is not a position, it’s a method. Being skeptical is not the same as being cynical. I would gladly change my position on psychics, astrology and the like, so long as there was sufficient evidence to do so.
By F4O4U4R4S on Nov 20, 2007 | Reply
An accuracy rating of 77% is a credible number and is more than just a guess.
In the betting world, if you gathered information on a team and it turned out that a certain team wins against another team 77% of the time, the bet would be deemed as a credible bet.
In the betting world any situation where a team has a better than 66% chance of winning that game, through extensive research, is a virtual lock.
By morgiieee on Nov 22, 2007 | Reply
astrology isn’t a government. a government makes a society. so you know.
astrology can’t end world hunger, or poverty.
in case you did not know. inform yourself on the subject before making negative comments.
By igottaexplain on Nov 25, 2007 | Reply
this is ridiculous.
By nepreth on Nov 28, 2007 | Reply
and also astrology is an old traditon in china as well
By moondog999 on Nov 29, 2007 | Reply
not 100% sure, but I think it was Mangaldas Girdhardas who said that.
By statickk14 on Nov 30, 2007 | Reply
I second that!!
By statickk14 on Dec 2, 2007 | Reply
I agree, Gandhi actually dragged India down few centuries instead of leading her to a future of Critical thinking. Gandhi was a religious fanatic Hindu and a ****** who hated the black people in Sout Africa. In fact ‘money was spent to maintain Gandhi’s poverty’, can’t remember who said that, but a famous Indian who was Gandhi’s contemporary.
By moondog999 on Dec 5, 2007 | Reply
My country has already been ***** and robbed by the British. What’s more, the country my family came from has also been ***** and robbed by the same crowd. Yet both counties have first world economies and happy productive people!
How did that happen?
Chiefly because we know education and hard work lead to success, not some silly backwards bullshit *primitive* belief in astrology!
Furthermore Gandhi was a ****** opportunist who gets far more credit than he deserves.
Why’d you bring him up?
By dd1857 on Dec 7, 2007 | Reply
60 years into freedom..Now a Nuclear Power..Rising power.. 150 years Under British Rule..See the difference???
By dd1857 on Dec 7, 2007 | Reply
yep.that is true..Home your country also is ***** , robbed like british did to india and then india will see how good you are..
The fact is if you look closely who has provied the though leadership aginst the Western Empire… All coming from India…Gandhi ..Luthar KINg…South Africa..
CHINA budddhism… Japan.. Buddhism…
Yep that is where india has lead to ..India,China,Japan, and other countries still follow Hindusim,Buddhism..
By anduin13 on Dec 9, 2007 | Reply
The reading was completely cold reading.
By moondog999 on Dec 12, 2007 | Reply
yeah let’s all follow the Indian example.
where has astrology gotten them? India is a world leader in poverty, disease and hunger.
By moondog999 on Dec 12, 2007 | Reply
This is inane.
The statements he is calling out could (and do!) apply to anyone to some degree.
Colour me unimpressed.
By rrhebert on Dec 15, 2007 | Reply
Also, several people have said that the first “hit” Armstrong gets couldn’t have been a guess, because most people don’t do martial arts. But Armstrong said “martial arts or dancing,” and Jennifer hears “martial arts.” If she had never done martial arts (not even a kickboxing class at the gym?), he could fall back on the more general “dancing” guess. Most people have danced at some point, at least when they were a kid. Does anyone else spend a lot of time in a blue toyota or an older car?
By rrhebert on Dec 18, 2007 | Reply
@mysticbrightshadow: If vedic astrology has been around for 7,000 years, as you claim, have the “experts” updated their charts recently? The stars are in significantly different positions than 7k years ago…
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